Explaining the New Anarchy, with Adrienne LaFrance

Al From discusses in the From and Fuller Podcast how Donald Trump and J.D. Vance are trying to shift blame for attempted political violence to Kamala Harris and Joe Biden.

Rick talks to Peter Simi, a sociology professor and expert in extremism, about the alarming rise of white supremacy in the U.S., where the movement has evolved from the overt image of the Klan to a slick, social media-driven force. Simi highlights how figures like Donald Trump and Tucker Carlson amplify these ideologies and how younger generations are being recruited online. He emphasizes the need for intervention programs to help individuals leave the movement and combat its growing influence. Buy Peter Simi’s book – “Out of Hiding: Extremist White Supremacy and How It Can be Stopped” – at fine bookstores everywhere.

Fareed Zakaria joins Rick to discuss the history of political upheaval and revolution and his new book, "The Age of Revolutions: Progress and Backlash from 1600 to the Present." They explore the historical patterns of cultural and political upheavals, beginning with the Tea Party movement and the cultural backlash during Barack Obama's presidency. Zakaria contrasts the incremental nature of the American Revolution with the more radical French and Russian revolutions. They delve into the challenges faced by modern authoritarian regimes in China and Saudi Arabia, the importance of America's post-war influence, and the need to navigate technological and economic transformations while preserving liberty and human dignity.

Ruth Ben-Ghiat writes: "Authoritarians conjure existential threats from an ever-expanding roster of enemies —immigrants, Jews, and leftists among them" so Trump's visit to a gun shop to admire a customized "Trump 45" Glock was inevitable.

Kimberly Atkins Stohr, senior opinion columnist for the Boston Globe and co-host of the SisterInLaw podcast, joins Rick Wilson on The Enemies List. Rick and Kimberly dissect the media's (mis)handling of the Trump indictments and the looming national political crisis.